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Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:25PM (Unverified) said

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I wish Jack Thompson would jump off a bridge.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:26PM (Unverified) said

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when one of the few rational people on the subject is rush limbaugh, it makes me realize the world is a terrible place.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:28PM wilef said

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I can't believe you just lumped the mainstream media and Rush Limbaugh in the same category.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:30PM hvnlysoldr said

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The mainstream media hates Rush so are they really in the same category?

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:05PM (Unverified) said

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Cho didn't use his PSP to kill 33 students, while he defends video games, he slights them by comparing them to guns only to push the already frenzied anti-gun control lobby's agenda. Video games can be compared to many things; movies for their cinematic qualities, books for the narrative but what do video games really have to do with guns, aside form the fact that most video games have guns in them?

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:31PM (Unverified) said

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Whether you agree with his politics or not, I think gamers can agree with the underlying point: It the person that makes the choice to do anything. I wish I could remember who said this quote but it applies, "Correlation does NOT mean causation." Yes, its true he played Counter-Strike but so do millions of people and most realize it's a game and do not go on murderous rampages. It's nice to see someone in the media finally state it like it is. It's the person not anything else: not video games, not rap music, not movies that killed those innocent lives. It was the guy that pulled the trigger not Counter-Strike.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:33PM (Unverified) said

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haha - how ironic is this. For the first time in my life, I'll say that Rush is right on target with regard to videogames.

100% correct....except maybe the analogy to gun control..

...the last time I picked up a video game and tried to *shoot* somebody with it, nothing happened. Hmmm.... why is that? Maybe it wasn't loaded? Do you think that if I had tried to use, say, a GUN(!)...the result might have been different??? eh, Rush?

No, video games don't kill people...but guns...do? Maybe?

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:32PM copa said

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Uh, isn't this the same dude who was raving about how casual drug users need to serve hard prison time while he was jacked up on OxyContin?

Let's not scrape the bottom of the barrel in our search for moral support here.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:34PM Gimbal said

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I guess it goes to show that nobody can be wrong all the time.

BTW, that picture is like...uncanny valley or something. Creeps me out.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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wow. Rush did something admirable for once in his career.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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This was just a small clip, though. The full thing had Rush blaming feminazis, Hillary Clinton, liberal media, blacks, and jews for this event.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with something that Rush Limbaugh said? I think I just vomited in my mouth a touch.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 7:10PM (Unverified) said

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Boy I bet you liberal jackasses don't know what to make of this. After all, here's a guy you're instructed to hate defending the hobby you love. Maybe you should actually try and LISTEN to someone's reasoning before you go off and judge him or her just because it's 'cool' to.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:47PM (Unverified) said

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How about, instead of that picture of Rush, you use a gif from the Colbert Report of him break dancing/making an ass of himself imitating Michael J Fox.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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@10

...uuuuuh. No he didn't.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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"BTW, that picture is like...uncanny valley or something. Creeps me out."

Has nothing to do with uncanny valley. Normally, portrait lighting is a three light approach. Brightest up front with a fill light at a 45-60 degree angle from that and a backlight to keep the edges of the subject from becoming too black. This portrait seems to have taken the complete polar opposite approach. What they;ve done is is two strongest lights are backlaighting towards the rear of the subject and the weakest light is taking the role of the filler lamp. It looks off because there is no discernable single light source and it dramatically sidesteps the background image(almost making it look like he's facing north and the set is both rising and setting at the same time).

... it's sad how much shit you have to learn when you want to do 3D computer animation. Would you believe I even had to be a cameraman for a local news station for 15 total hours for a course?

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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Comparing games and guns is just plain stupid.

The only and single purpose of a gun is to harm somebody (no matter if it's agression or self defense).

The purpose of a game is to have fun, tell stories and, sometimes, make you think about something (which might be controvertial).

Guns are NOT a cultural creation, they are killing tools.

And while you cannot blame weapons for this guy actions, you can certainly understand that if, instead of guns, he would have only access to a knife, the body count won't be the same. At all.

At some point, in the future, i'm really eager to see what will happen in the USA when the first "nuclear gun" will be available on every corner shop... Maybe this will settle the debate in a fast, definitive and efficient way.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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@foxwind

Sarcasm... look it up.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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Wow. How long did you have to look to find that picture of Rush? Skinny, and with hair!

Also, for those of you saying Rush is not part of the Mainstream Media... He likes to characterize other news outlets (that he disagrees with) as "The Mainstream Media," but that doesn't mean he's separate from it. He's got a huge audience (20 million?), and everyone knows who he is. He may not be universally liked, but I'd call him pretty mainstream.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:44PM (Unverified) said

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Come on Sheppy! He never blamed blacks, and jews for this event. I'll give you the feminazis, Hillary Clinton and liberal media though.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:45PM (Unverified) said

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Am I the only one that things Rush Limbaugh looks like a slimmer Archie Bunker, especially in the picture used on the header of his website? He's got the cocky grin, and the cigar. It's like I can just hear him calling me a "Meathead" and ranting about the "colored folks".

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:54PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not necessarily a Rush-hater, but doesn't that picture look a bit like King Koopa from that awful "Super Mario Bros." movie?

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:46PM Mr Khan said

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....

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.... wow...

(Once in a lifetime event, that)

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:46PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not sure but I think his show may be the first to bring up the video game connection. have other segments of the oligarchy said anything of the sort?

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:49PM (Unverified) said

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Sheppy, sarcasm can usually only be detected by vocal patterns. When all you have is the written word, it's a wee bit harder to tell whether or not someone is being serious.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:50PM (Unverified) said

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Sheppy and Gimbal,
As a retoucher I can tell you that the picture is also HEAVILY retouched, which makes him look artificial and 'plastic'. It's so heavy handed it almost looks more like a painting or illustration than a photograph.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:51PM PoisonedAl said

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I thought I'd never see the day that I would agree with Rush Limbaugh. However uncomfortable the link with gun control is, at lest that would get into the thick heads of all the damn red-necks that listen to him. Let's face it, who here would have thought up: "if you ban games we'll have to take your guns away too!"

On a side note, constitutional right or not, you need a stronger check then ticking a "no I'm not fucking mental" box on a form to get a gun. I don't care where you are from.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:51PM (Unverified) said

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Hahaha, Rush Limbaugh said something smart. That's funny. Let's remember this forever. It won't happen again.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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That picture is obviously of Rush right after snorting a huge rail of OxyContin. You're on top of the world Rush!

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:56PM (Unverified) said

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@sheppy

Yeah. I could totally detect the sacasm in your words. They dripped.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 5:58PM hvnlysoldr said

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Tougher gun control won't solve the problem. Look at the states with the toughest gun control laws and you'll also find the states with the worst gun violence. Guns are a problem but they've been embedded into American culture so banning them won't solve the underlying causes like crime and poverty.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:00PM (Unverified) said

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Glad to see Rush is having Max Headroom do his plastic surgery nowadays...

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:09PM sand0789 said

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You didn't need voice inflection to detect Sheppy's sarcasm, lol.

Anywho, Rush is still an idiot. He really didn't say anything intelligent in his rant, as usual. He just said that not "everybody" who plays a game goes on a killing spree. That is a pretty basic observation. Let's delay our "Rush is a Genius" chant for now.

Someone earlier brought up a good point that coorelation does not automatically mean causation. Stats show drug using kids get worse grades than non drug users. OMG Marijuanna ftl! Then you look at the fact that those kids got bad grades before using and you wonder, "maybe kids who hate school are more likely to use."

Same with games, sort of. If I were a violent sociopath, I think violent games would be a perfect hobby. I'm killin stuff, sort of, while being challenged and entertained. The bonus, I don't need any friends to do it and don't have to be around people.

Why wouldn't violent people prefer violent games, TV, hobbies, etc? Perhaps the coorelation is more an effect of the individual's taste than any kind of a trigger that made them the way they are.

If you want to get all criminal profily n shiz, the all time absolute most common factor amongst serial and mass murderers is that they tortured animals when they were young. I used to blow up frogs with bottle rockets, so what yourself ;)

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:10PM wilef said

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You have to be a journalist to be a part of the mainstream media, john. Rush is a commentator, not a reporter. He works with opinion and his purpose is entertainment. A reporter is supposed to present facts for the purpose of informing. There's a big difference, so once again, it's inaccurate to group Rush with the mainstream media.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:14PM MrFrench said

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whats with all the rush hate? am i the only conservative leaning gamer out there??

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:12PM (Unverified) said

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"You have to be a journalist to be a part of the mainstream media, john. Rush is a commentator, not a reporter."

Um, who says this? So Maureen Dowd isn't part of the mainstream media? Last time I checked, her paychecks still said "New York Times" on them. The same applies to Rush. You just delude yourself that your political opinions are out of the mainstream, and that Rush is some guy on the fringes, speaking truth to power.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:14PM (Unverified) said

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OMG! Limbaugh isn't wrong about something! Stop the presses!

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:16PM (Unverified) said

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Regardless of whether Rush is "mainstream" or not, it's nice at least know of one talking head that doesn't rush out at the first sign of violence and say "It's the videogames."

Out here in Los Angeles, Dr. Phil was on the local news via a teleconference feed very shortly after the shootings took place. And he was very quick to jump onto the "Videogames are bad" bandwagon. No evidence that the kid even played games. No evidence of ANYTHING about the kid. Immediately, it's video games at fault.

How in the HELL does Dr. Phil have "Dr." in front of his name? It's pure propaganda on his part; he quite obviously has an inherent bias against video games and displays of violence. Yet -- nothing about the individual in question, how he was raised, how he reacted to things as he grew up, etc., etc. Nope, none of that. It's the games.

Even if Rush is the only airwave mogul to say "It wasn't the videogames", it's nice that at least someone on the air gets it.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:16PM HeyApples said

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Holy smokes, the man has finally taken his head out of the collective asses of these right-wing nutjobs enough to breath a completely logical statement.

Respect++

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:17PM (Unverified) said

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Suddenly I feel like i'm in favor of videogame censorship.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:18PM (Unverified) said

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Wait a minute.... I actually agree with Rush!!??

Someone pinch me. I know I must be dead or dying.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:20PM (Unverified) said

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Dr. Phil isn't bald, he's a skinhead. He's a racist Nazi pig humper, and he was insinuating that because the shooter was Korean, he played video games. Dr. Phil thinks that all Koreans are champion video gamers/gold farmers. Dr. Phil is a fascist.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:22PM (Unverified) said

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Haha, I was just watching Chris Matthews, and Chris ask one of Cho's suitemates what he knew about Counter-Strike and the suitemate said Cho never played any computer or video games. Haha. I hope that guy pays up.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:22PM Wideruled said

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No jack, i too am one.

And a lot of people are missing the entire point of what he said. he was using guns as an example of saying that it is an imposition on our freedoms (whether or not you agree with the right to own a firearm). His underlying point was also that millions of people own guns, yet we dont have millions of deaths.

I think one of my other friends had a good example:

Access to cars increases the probability of car crashes. Access to hamburgers increases the probability of obesity. Access to shoes increases the probability of swampfoot.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:23PM ill trooper said

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His words mean nothing to me. They may happen to fall on the same side of opinion as mine on this issue, but his senseless rants on countless other topics negate any value this one diamond of logic amidst a sea of his muck may have.

And for the record, Limbaugh has NEVER looked like that, that photo is a combination of his addiction to perscription meds and Photoshop.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:25PM MrFrench said

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oh and another thing. you rush haters do realize its people like '08 presidential candidate and lefty hillary clinton who would love to have video games banned. yet RUSH is the bad guy here... all i have to say is be careful what you democratic gamers wish for in '08, because you just might get it.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:26PM (Unverified) said

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He looks plastic!

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:26PM Ordeith said

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Guns are available to criminals and will continue to be whatever laws are passed. Gun control takes a defensive measure away from law-abiding citizens and gives criminals more control over their now unarmed victims.

You have as much chance keeping a gun from a motivated criminal as you do keeping a DRM Free copy of Casino Royal off of the internet.

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:35PM ill trooper said

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"...you rush haters do realize its people like '08 presidential candidate and lefty hillary clinton who would love to have video games banned. yet RUSH is the bad guy here... all i have to say is be careful what you democratic gamers wish for in '08, because you just might get it. - Jack"

...Except that even if every president for the next 20 years wanted video games banned, it would NEVER HAPPEN. So stop with the F.U.D.

NEXT...

Posted: Apr 18th 2007 6:33PM dabamf said

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@hvnlysoldr

Yeah, I totally agree. Rush is definitely not the MSM. That's why Joystiq would have to go to him as a source for logic, am I right?

@copa

Bottom of the barrel, huh? Just because the man made a mistake in his life doesn't mean that he can't make good points about things. And if you listen to his broadcasts during the time when he had an addiction to painkillers (after surgery), he never once passed judgment on those with a similar problem, knowing that he would be seen as a hypocrite. When the oxycotin story came out, he admitted his mistake and got help. This is far different from the situation on the Left where no wrong-doing ever happens, even in the context of drunk-driving leading to manslaughter (Ted Kennedy), rape and extra-marital affairs (Bill Clinton), lying under oath about said affairs (Bill Clinton), being a member of the KKK (Robert Byrd), or being a complete hypocrite when it comes to the environment (Al Gore). Who should we be listening to on the Left?

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